is the most popular rifle in America, and Weatherby offers tack-driving bolt guns in both calibers in a wide variety of configurations. Of the cartridges designed to work in standard AR15 rifles the 6.5 Grendel or some variant of the 6.8's are the only ones that really improve on 223 ballistics. You’ll probably pay twice as much per round as .223 Rem., but at least you’ll have something to shoot. Here’s a look at three of the best. bullet weight, rifle weight, barrel length, barrel twist, barrel wear, angle of stock, etc.) +1 223 has no recoil I may be wrong because only 243 I've ever fired was loud as hell and booted like hell bit it was a … Some of my spots are in semi urban areas (yes legal to shoot a rifle), so the less noise the better. A .223 will hammer deer with the right pill, but a .243 will hammer even harder with the right bullet. Re: .243 & 7mm-08, recoil difference...how much? Diving deeper, Winchester says it has nearly 63% less recoil than the 450 Bushmaster, 18% less than .243 Win, and 11% less than 30-30 Win. Shootability Bolt action rifles, lever action, pump action, self loading rifles and other miscellaneous longarms. double in price. I am a short action fan and would not reccomend the .270 for a woman. Still, recoil can be daunting for newcomers to the sport and might play a role in the decision-making process. The ideal coyote hunting cartridge is flat shooting, highly accurate, and won’t ruin pelts. The .223 is a great varmint round and is cheaper to shoot that the .243 But you're still talking about 10-11 ft lbs of recoil, which isn't much. Campfire Guide. is the obvious winner. Much louder than a 223. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > browning308 Member. As you can see, there is a considerable difference between the .270 and the others. This round is a modification of the .308 Winchester . The recoil in a properly set up rifle would be comfortable enough for a youngster. Ballistics Cartridges Shooting. It was developed in 1957 for an experimental rifle known as the AR-15. Your best bet would be a bolt action 223 since ammo is so prevelent and inexpensive, compare prices of 223 and 22-250 and you'll see what i mean. Written By Ron Spomer The sun was on the Nebraska horizon and a Mossberg 243 Winchester bolt-action was on my shoulder when a herd of November whitetails exploded from a copse of trees and scattered into the Sandhills. Too bad we're not allowed silencers like in UK. Our website lists special deals on 9mm Ammo, 10mm Ammo, 45-70 Ammo, 6.5 Creedmoor ammo, 300 Blackout Ammo, 10mm Ammo, 5.56 Ammo, Underwood Ammo, Buffalo Bore Ammo and more special deals on bulk ammo. Just make sure your gun is … The 243 has alittle more recoil than the 22-250 but the best one to use would be a 223 or a 17cal of some kind less you are going for the really long shots then go with a 243 or 22-250. As to just target shooting,both are equally accurate at that range but .243 costs more to shoot. One way to think about this is as such: a foot-pound is a unit of energy equal to the amount of energy required to raise a weight of one pound a distance of one foot. 64-grain: 3.3 foot pounds: 5.1 fps Fire any of the above in a heavier rifle and all felt recoil goes down. This post was edited on 1/12 at 5:32 pm cartridges as “available” to order online: the 53-grain Varmint and Predator and the 69 grain Gold Medal Match. But this is not a normal year. Inside the gun community there are always talks about which is the better caliber, such as .308 vs the .243 or 9mm against the .45 ACP. The longer you shoot, and the harder the rifle kicks, the more likely you are to flinch. RE: Recoil .223 VS .243 i had the same delema years back,wanted a 223 for predators but realised this cartridge wasn't good for deer.went with the 243 and love it.its fun to shoot(all day if need be)and there realy is no recoil to speak of.i can watch the bullet hit its intended target thru the scope every time,if the 243 had major recoil this wouldn't be possible. That extends the maximum effective range all the way to 350 yards, depending on your velocity at the muzzle. To put this into perspective, a Boeing 737 commercial airliner travels at a cruising speed of 600 mph, or 880 fps. The .223 Rem. Where before this year you could find .223 Rem. can’t kill a deer past 220 yards. Ballistics, as they say, are king, so I’m giving the ultimate nod to the .243 Win. Some have reported taking bears or elk, but at that point, you might be pushing it. [Re: … I’m also not saying your .223 Rem. It even has over 14% more energy than 300 Blackout, 15% more than 30-30 Win, and 49% more than .223 Rem. Barnes lists 12 bullet weights commercially available for .243 Win., ranging from a 55-grain boat tail to a 105-grain hollow-point boat tail. Apparently the overriding factor was the greatly reduced recoil of the .223, which allowed a very high rate of fire and (most of all) didn't intimidate the inexperienced conscripts that formed the bulk of the U. S. military at the time. The .243 Win. I’d call action availability a draw. But for purposes of this comparison, I’d give the edge to the .243 Win. If you're looking for a cheap shooting round to acclimate you to shooting, the .223 is cheap, and the .22LR is cheaper yet. It’s a small-to-medium sized game caliber whose primary use has been taking down four-legged rather than two-legged critters. bullet weight, rifle weight, barrel length, barrel twist, barrel wear, angle of stock, etc.) The recoil is still no problemo. A 243 has more powder, 25 gr 223 vs ~38-40 for 243. It’s better suited for varmint hunting than big game hunting, but a 62-grain Fusion or even a 55-grain Trophy Copper would reliably take down a whitetail given proper shot placement. I like having the extra power and range for medium-sized animals, and I don’t see much downside for varmint hunting. As illustrated in the chart, .223 Remington rounds - on average - achieve a velocity of about 3150 feet per second (fps) while .243 Winchester rounds travel at a velocity of 3180 fps. When it comes to Remington rifle, one of the most discussed issue is the use of .22-250 or .223 caliber. The .260 is less recoil than the .308, and is 1000 yard capable. Again, the above is for comparative information purposes only, and you should consult the exact ballistics for the particular .223 Remington or .243 Winchester cartridge you're looking at purchasing. So the .223 and .243 are very different cartridges. In a normal year, the .223 Rem. wins hands-down. Such as my state of Washington requires .24 caliber/6mm minimum. Oct 19, 2020 #13 Go with the .223 Remington as the recoil that cartridge produces is virtually non-existant. It is hotter than a .222 but not as hot as a .22-250, so there should be no worry about barrel wear and reduced life. 243 Winchester vs. 30-30 Win. 95-grain: 9 foot pounds: 8.5 fps: 223 Rem. 22=250's CAN burn out a barrel faster than a 223 will, depending on the velocity of ammo used, and frequency of use. The 223 is not legal for hunting in many states. If you want to go to a 6.5 eventually start there, use the money for a 223 and put it toward reloading components or ammo. Foundry Outdoors is your trusted home for buying archery, camping, fishing, hunting, shooting sports, and outdoor gear online. This does come at the expense of more (though not excessive) recoil and muzzle blast though. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. 6.5 Creedmoor vs 223 Inside the gun community there are always talks about which is the better caliber, such as .308 vs the .243 or 9mm against the .45 ACP. 204 vs 223 vs 22-250 vs 243. If you've shot one before, you know how effective the .243 is when it comes to taking down deer. As such, the following is for comparative information purposes only and should not be used to make precise predictions of the trajectory, performance, or true ballistics of any particular .223 Remington or .243 Winchester rounds for hunting, target shooting, plinking, or any other usage. Remember that. is the obvious winner. So a .223 Remington round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 1250 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .243 Winchester round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 1950 pounds over the same one foot distance. I shot lots of 223, but not the 243 and I am interested in recoil and noise. If you only want to get to 600 a 223 can do it but so could the ar you already have. Don't discount the .243 Winchester as a long range cartridge. The majority of the cartridges use bullets ranging from 85 to 105 grain, and Federal’s offerings follow that trend. Please email us if you have questions about any of our product listings. When it comes to availability, it’s always good to bet on the NATO caliber. Velocity. Since this year is such an anomaly (I hope), I’m going to give the overall nod in this category to the .223 Rem. Recoil of the 350 Legend will be almost exactly the same as 243. isn’t uncomfortable, but compared to the .223 Rem., it’s snappy (depending on your rifle, of course). And can feel the difference in recoil between premium LE ammo, same weight, in .223 vs 5.56. A 243 Winchester versus 7mm-08 Remington match-up will cause some readers to raise the "apples to oranges" red flag, but that doesn't mean this comparison is out-of-bounds. By Ron Spomer. By contrast, six of Federal’s 17 .243 Win. Just make sure your gun is … are identical, the .223 will have slightly less recoil because of the lower powder weight for a … Shooting forum Centerfire rifles. 67 posts • Page 1 of 3 • 1, 2, 3. To put this into perspective, a Boeing 737 commercial airliner travels at a cruising speed of 600 mph, or 880 fps. I would say the 223 is an experts caliber. Then of course there’s the long range rock star competitive round 6.5 Creedmoor against the .223/5.56 combat load issue of the military and well known among recreational shooters. And can feel the difference in recoil between premium LE ammo, same weight, in .223 vs 5.56. Note that the most powerful shotgun loads generate recoil comparable to elephant rifle cartridges. Vs. .243 Win. wins in a landslide. can push a 75-grain projectile about 3,300 feet per second at the muzzle and achieves about 1,800 foot-pounds of energy. The latter two are more common, but Henry makes a sweet lever gun called the “Long Ranger” in both calibers. [Re: new2turkey] ARCOREY Die Hard Member with a vengeance Registered: 12/27/05 Posts: 4839 Loc: USA If in doubt, get a Simms slip on recoil pad for him and have at it. Slim, nicely balanced, fast to the shoulder, mild recoil (about 11.5 ft-lbs at 10 fps with a 150-grain bullet in 7.5-pound rifle), and fast to cycle. Recoil is the downfall of many shooters, men as well as women, adults as well as kids, heavyweights as well as lightweights. what i find funny is a 22 cal. are synonymous with both deer and varmint hunting, so we decided to pit them against each other to see who comes out on top. If you’re up for … It's very possible that you'll get the bug to go hunting in the future,and if you do-the .243 will be your best bet then. Flashing tails, leaping legs, long necks and there! As if that’s such a painstaking decision. 6.5 Creedmoor vs 223. Fishing. Campfire Guide. You can find lever, bolt, and semi-auto rifles chambered in both actions. The .243 Winchester is a round used to hunt deer and similar sized animals, some people use it on larger animals but it really isn't made for anything much bigger than a deer. When looking at the .22LR vs .223, the truth is that the .223 is, in fact, a .22 caliber round. The .243 Win. 10 Early Ice … Still I think the 7-08 is a better overall round for big game hunting, and recoil isn't that much more than the .243. Federal’s 55-grain Trophy Cooper, for example, has a minimum velocity for full expansion of only 1,800 fps. Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by browning308, Feb 10, 2011. Shot placement has to be surgically precise with a 223 on deer sized game and a 243 with good bullets is a lot more forgiving. “Shootability” is a broad term we’re using to mean “how available is this caliber and how comfortable is it to shoot?”. Re: 223 vs 243 vs 270 by duncan61 » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:05 pm Ive never shot a 270 but I have shot the 30/06.The ballistics are nearly at 7mm rem so Its got some go This is a good illustration of the recoil. The prices on Federal’s website don’t appear to have risen, but elsewhere I’ve seen .223 Rem. for about 30 cents per round, now you’ll be lucky to find anything in stock below 60 cents. That’s still not a heck of a lot to start with and it helps make this round a great recoil-sensitive, range-limited rifle round. produces about half the felt recoil of the .243 Win. MN. has slightly less range in terms of bullet weights (40 grain to 75 grain), but it covers basically the same ground. A 243 is a .308 case necked down to .243 I have seen the splash in my scope many times with both but the .243 has more recoil. It’s true that bullet construction and shot placement will kill an animal more effectively than poor shooting with a huge caliber. 22-250 is almost twice the price of the 223 ammo. But what, you might wonder, are some suitable “light recoil” cartridges? Anybody got advice on 223 vs 243 vs 270?I'm after target, but more so game (vermin) at goat or medium boar size...Cheers and happy shooting!!P. Fire a 120-grain in the 7mm-08 at 3100 fps to get 17.5 f-p at 12.7 fps. We offer a 100% Authenticity Guarantee on all products sold on our website. The ammunition is more expensive, but it’s just as common (especially these days), and I can find rifles in lots of different actions and from many different manufacturers. We have a variety of deals on Rifle Ammo, Handgun Ammo, Shotgun Ammo & Rimfire Ammo, as well as ammo for target practice, plinking, hunting, or shooting competitions. With dozens of countries relying on the .223/5.56 to arm their infantry, there’s usually plenty of it to go around. How does a 243 Winchester, for instance, compare against the kick of a 270 Winchester or 300 Winchester Magnum? Which of the two make a better choice for a hunting cartridge? Mag. Just my 2 cent. Capable of using the same bullets that the .22-250 and .220 Swift were pushing, the .223 gave a respectable and useable trajectory, with less recoil, in a smaller package. yukonal. You didn’t have to pull my arm out of it’s socket for that solution. Both the .22-250 and .220 Swift are very flat shooting, retain more kinetic energy, and have less wind drift than the .204 Ruger and .223 Remington. .223 recoil is about 3 or 4 pounds,.243 is around 8.5 to 11, and 30/30 is about 10 to 12. Flicking that lever will run five rounds from the tubular magazine through the action and down the barrel as fast as a running buck could flash through gaps in the trees. The .223 was also chambered in many bolt-action hunting rifles, showing fine accuracy. I am looking for a new rifle and I can't decide between 223 and 243. Vs. .22-250 Rem. Comparing both cartridges in 7.5 pound rifles, the .223 firing a 62 grain bullet at a 3,020 fps. Generally speaking, the higher the muzzle energy, the higher the stopping power. ... 243 Win. Generally speaking, (very generally; calm down, everyone) a .223 Rem. by contrast achieves only about 1,400 foot-pounds of energy by throwing a 75-grain projectile 2,900 fps. Equally important to the gun you choose is a good scope with sufficient eye relief. The AR-15 chambered in .223 Rem. What does the recoil of a 25-06 compare to? Maximum effective range is another way to compare one caliber to another. For many hunters, the .223 Rem. In 2020, .243 Win. The .243 Winchester is simply the .308 Winchester necked down to hold .243″ diameter bullets. vs. .30-06 Springfield Three of the most revered deer-hunting rounds in a head-to-head-to-head comparison By Ron Spomer In his excellent handbook, “Cartridges of the World,” Frank C. Barnes describes the .30-0... Our picks for the week’s best hunting, fishing, wild foods, and conservation content. I guess I’ll just have to own both. Recoil. I think you let him try the 30/30 and if that works, and you want to buy him a youth model rifle then the.243 would be perfect. Both the .22-250 and .220 Swift are very flat shooting, retain more kinetic energy, and have less wind drift than the .204 Ruger and .223 Remington. Whatever you do make sure you get a stock that fits her. +1 223 has no recoil I may be wrong because only 243 I've ever fired was loud as hell and booted like hell bit it was a … The .223 Rem. Versatility They help a good bit and are easily removed. 22-250 vs 223 vs 204 Ruger vs 220 Swift: Ammunition Selection But your past doesn’t define you, and it doesn’t define these calibers either. With a brake you won't have any ill effects due to recoil on the 6.5. Some prefer higher caliber weapons, while some prefer smaller ones, with less recoil and better aim. The .243 Win. As Chuck Hawks notes in his great recoil table, the .223 Rem. Recoil of the 350 Legend will be almost exactly the same as 243. The .223 is a smaller bullet not just in size but, a good deal in weight and does not have the range or power that the .243 has. cartridges are currently listed as available. As a rule of thumb, when it comes to hunting, muzzle energy is what many hunters look at when deciding on what caliber of firearm / ammunition to select. In terms of comfort, the .223 Rem. For just a little bit more recoil though, the 243 maintains deer-relevant energy much further than both the 300 Blackout and 223. “Versatility” refers to both range of bullet weights available and range of actions chambered in a specific cartridge. This does come at the expense of more (though not excessive) recoil and muzzle blast though. load will reliably kill a deer out to 500 yards. The .243 sends a bigger bullet down range and is a great long range flat shooting round in a small package capable and legal to shoot deer with. Don't discount the .243 Winchester as a long range cartridge. As illustrated in the chart, .223 Remington rounds - on average - achieve a velocity of about 3150 feet per second (fps) while .243 Winchester rounds travel at a velocity of 3180 fps. Get the 243. are identical, the .223 will have slightly less recoil because of the lower powder weight for a given velocity. May 14. There seem to be a never ending discussion about what caliber is the best and what weapon to use, especially when it comes to hunting. The 243 has more recoil than either 223 or 22-250. My wife has a .243 stainless tikka that we cut the stock down and added a limbsaver pad. For this reason, we are going to spend a little time discussing it in the context of the 6.5 Creedmoor vs .243. Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by browning308, Feb 10, 2011. I’m not saying your .243 Win. I've fired both and the 22-250 typically has more recoil because I shoot faster loads in it. BTHP T2 TAP 5.56 NATO. produces about half the felt recoil of the .243 Win. As I’ve stated before: the .223 Remington and .308 Winchester are both solid rifle cartridges. A .243 will wear you down during extended shooting, the recoil and muzzle blast will just tire you out after a couple of hours of shooting if not sooner. For more detailed ballistics information please refer to the exact round in question or contact the manufacturer for the pertinent information. As I’ve stated before: the .223 Remington and .308 Winchester are both solid rifle cartridges. While the media loves to portray this as a ‘huge assault bullet’ and only meant for use in warfare, the truth is that a .223 round is a relatively small and not particularly powerful. It has little to no more felt recoil than the 223, and is a better round if you are hunting deer. The recoil of the .308 could reduce accuracy for novice shooters compared to a .243. The .243 Win. I've fired both and the 22-250 typically has more recoil because I shoot faster loads in it. Then of course there’s the long range rock star competitive round 6.5 Creedmoor against the .223/5.56 combat load issue of the military and well known among recreational shooters. Make no mistake the 223 will DRT any deer with proper shot placement and shot placement above all things takes game. I estimate that fifteen foot pounds of free recoil energy and 10 fps of recoil velocity represent the approximate upper limit of the comfort level. Posts: 3,239. Well, that’s going to depend on a couple of parameters, and your … Can kill a deer on the spot but you cant hunt with them. Although I have killed a lot of deer with a 22 center fire, I would opt for the 243. We offer cheap ammo and bulk ammo deals on the most popular ammo calibers. If you’re looking for a semi-auto, you’ll likely have better luck finding a .223 Rem., but lots of companies chamber semi-auto guns in .243 Win. But even with full power stuff like Hornady 75 gr. However, since the difference between them (223 vs 308) is pretty big in certain respects, each cartridge is better suited to specific situations than the other. is a classic Army brat. It's also 1000 yard capable, and has low recoil , lower than the .260 Rem. First off, debate of this topic can get fairly heated, but for safety’s sake it is wise to shoot only .223 rounds out of a .223 barrel and likewise with the 5.56. Generally speaking, a heavier bullet travelling faster will give you a better chance of putting down an animal. 22-250 vs 223 vs 204 Ruger vs 220 Swift: Ammunition Selection A .243 Win. Not a huge difference, but more than enough for many shooters. I have 2 of them for both of my girls, and neither has a problem with recoil. In non-pandemic times, the .223 Rem. The recoil kinetic energy figures below are taken from the Rifle Recoil Table and the Shotgun Recoil Table. It's also 1000 yard capable, and has low recoil , lower than the .260 Rem. Also, the effects of recoil are cumulative. If anyone is willing to take me shooting the 243 I will be eternally grateful. vs. .243 Win. Go with the .223 Remington as the recoil that cartridge produces is virtually non-existant. When most of us think of recoil, we think of the actual kick that is felt when the gun is fired. This is enough difference and enough recoil for the .308 to throw off shots during the pull. The .223 was also chambered in many bolt-action hunting rifles, showing fine accuracy. My wife has no trouble managing the.243 recoil and many friend's/relative's wives and kids own and use a … can reach out even further. generates only 4.07 ft. lbs. For this reason, we are going to spend a little time discussing it in the context of the 6.5 Creedmoor vs .243. Federal’s 85-grain Trophy Copper also has a minimum velocity of 1,800 fps, and it’s still cooking along at that speed well past 500 yards. Capable of using the same bullets that the .22-250 and .220 Swift were pushing, the .223 gave a respectable and useable trajectory, with less recoil, in a smaller package. Added powder increases velocity and energy, which translates to what the Internet calls “knock-down power” (more on that later). .223 vs .243 The .223 is going to be easier on wallet and recoil less. The .243 Win. Use anything from 55gr pills for the small stuff up to 95gr pills which are hard hitting for bigger things. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. Joined: Mar 2008. Step down to an 80-grain bullet in the 243 at 3,400 fps and recoil drops to 11 f-p at 10 fps. My wife has no trouble managing the .243 recoil and many friend's/relative's wives and kids own and use a 243 for deer hunting. Introduced only two years apart, the .223 Remington and the .243 Winchester couldn’t have come from more different neighborhoods of the firearms world. Cartridge Type: Rifle Height: 2.045" Width: 0.473" Average FPS: 3179 Average Energy: 1952 Average Gr: 87 Recoil: 1.25 Power Rank: 2.77 of 20 . I wouldn't worry about it. A 243 has more powder, 25 gr 223 vs ~38-40 for 243. It can be measured or computed … Recoil will be affected by the load and the rifle, but here is some general info on recoil energy..243 - about 8lbs.260 - about 10lbs.257 - about 10lbs.25-06 - about 12.5lbs.270 - about 18lbs. I'm looking for a caliber that can reach out to 500 yards when needed and touch a varmint. I like that .223 is not as overbore as .243. Ballistically speaking, these calibers would be cousins rather than brothers. A quick video showcasing the 223 and 243 cartridges against my fake deer target. I was in a store ready to get one but it has to be special ordered and of course a 243 in stainless on his shelf is gonna cost me alot less then ordering a 25-06. Shooters who would never think of shooting a .416 Rem. The 350 gets over 23% more penetration than .243 Win and 60% more than .223 Rem. ... Best yet is to start them with a .223, then get them a 7-08. Couldn't take the kids to the range, so I thought I'd bring the range to them. A .223 Rem. was developed by Winchester in 1955 for use in its Model 70 bolt-action and Model 88 lever-action rifles. Coyote Cartridges: .223 Rem. Still, when comparing cartridges, foot-pounds of energy is a helpful way of describing the weight of a projectile and how fast it’s moving. isn’t uncomfortable, but compared to the .223 Rem., it’s snappy (depending on your rifle, of course). In this comparison, the .243 Win. yukonal. This section is as clear of a decision as any other category we will discuss on the .243 vs .308. and the .243 Win. 2 0. A lot of factors go into the actual “felt recoil” that we can’t put numbers on for comparison. The recoil is still no problemo. wins the availability battle. A 55-grain or 75-grain Nosler Ballistic Tip or Hornady V-Max bullet would do great work against varmints while a 100-grain Sierra Game King could take down any whitetail in North America. The major difference deals less with size and more with pressure. The .308—a fine design in and of itself—has been responsible for a number of successful cartridges, but the .243 has to be the most successful. It does make some noise and does recoil more than a "little" .223 but it can reach out and touch someone (some varmint) way better than the .223. hans471, Feb 11, 2011 #6. mc223 Member. Above that recoil becomes increasingly intrusive. The .243 Win. November 11, 2019. would be the clear winner. Federal lists only two .223 Rem. There’s no shame in admitting and owning this. 223 vs 243 vs 270 . was designed as both a light deer rifle and a varmint cartridge—it can hold its own against high-velocity .22-calibers but still provide enough oomph to take down larger animals. Still, recoil can be daunting for newcomers to the sport and might play a role in the decision-making process. Whitetail Deer Cartridge Shoot-Out: .30-30 Win. is a necked-down .308 Win., so it holds nearly twice as much powder as the .223 Rem. Best yet is to start them with a .223, then get them a 7-08. Donald Trump wasn't elected president in spite of who he is and how he acts, he was elected precisely because of who is and how he acts. But even with full power stuff like Hornady 75 gr. Recoil is not all that much more. What I want is a lighter cal rifle that is a pleasure to shoot and still can take white tailed size game. Theoretically, if all other variables (e.g. As Chuck Hawks notes in his great recoil table, the .223 Rem. However, since the difference between them (223 vs 308) is pretty big in certain respects, each cartridge is better suited to specific situations than the other. Ballistics Anonymous. Latest. True .223 Remington and .243 Winchester ballistics information can vary widely from the displayed information, and it is important to understand that the particular characteristics of a given round can make a substantive difference in its true performance. 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